I’ve been with my boyfriend for four years and we are in this for the long haul. We are not in a rush, but we are at the age where many of our friends are walking down the aisle, so marriage has been discussed. However, we have one fundamental difference on the subject. I would prefer not to live together before we were engaged, and he thinks we should. My reasoning is that he is not the type to get anything done unless he has a strong incentive. I don’t want to move in with him and find us unmarried 10 years later, which is what I envision happening. Our apartments are a few blocks away, so we practically live together anyway. How do I tell him how I feel without making it sound like I am pressuring him?
Letter from Dear Prudence on 2/5/2016
Dear Ms. Pressure,
I hate to break it to you, but the situation you’re afraid of happening is already happening. It’s been four years, which is more than enough time to know whether you want to marry someone. Still no ring. You’ve talked about marriage, which is a tiny baby step toward it, but where’s the ring? Where’s the planning? What goals are the two of you working towards? You’re worried about “pressuring him” but it’s been four years! That’s like the opposite of pressuring someone! At this point, whether you move in with him now or not, it won’t make a difference. The outcome will be the same.
If you want marriage, you must tell him so. Don’t be afraid. He must be on the same page with you though. If he’s not ready for marriage, then you just have to accept that. You can’t make him want it. If he wants to get married then, set goals to move the two of you closer to walking down the aisle. Make sure these goals are clear and concise. Set actual dates. If your boyfriend wants to get married, he will make an effort to meet these goals. You’ll know he is serious about getting married or not by the amount of effort he puts into meeting the goals.
However… if he does not want to get married, you have a big decision to make. You can leave him and find a guy with similar relationship goals. Or… you can give up on your dreams of holy matrimony and shack up. Choose wisely.
~Jana Leigh
So Readers, what do you think? Is four years enough time to know whether you want to marry someone? Should you move in together before engagement?
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I think it depends on the age of the couple. My girlfriend met her boyfriend in college. We graduated and she moved back to NYC to work and to go to grad school and they did the long distance thing. He proposed after 8 years of dating. He knew she was the one, but she wanted the ring even though she knew she wasn’t ready to get married yet. They just celebrated their 11th wedding anniversary.
But, I’m 41 and I will not date a man for 4 years without a ring. That means that we’re not on the same page.
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I’m not waiting 8 years for ring. Well, I don’t want to get married anyway, but if I did…. I wouldn’t wait 8 years.
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LOL! To each his own. I wouldn’t wait at 27, but if I was 21 and had goals to complete and we were living in two different cities with two different opportunities, it may be something to consider. Heck, I wouldn’t recommend anyone get married before 30 nowadays.
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I wouldn’t wait at all. My limit would be two years.
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You are absolutely right not to move in with him before marriage. 4 years and no ring????? Are you kidding me??? No matter how much you love and care for him, if he is not willing to make a public commitment to you after all this time, I would move on. 4 years is ridiculous.
After dating my husband for two years, I decided if he had not proposed by a certain time, I would break up with him. I never told him because I was not going to pressure him, but he ended up proposing about 4 months ahead of my deadline.
Move on, girl! Best of luck to you : )
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Great advice!
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I think it depends on the age. If they started dating at 18 then no, I think it’s ok for them to wait a while if they want to. But if they started dating at say 30 or something, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to think a guy should want to marry you or not after four bloody years! I’m turning 25 soon and I genuinely think after a year of dating someone, they should know if they see me in their future as their wife. This may be a case by case thing though and I suppose it doesn’t apply to everyone but after four years, I sure as hell would be expecting that commitment from the guy I was dating.
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I agree.
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I think that four years is long enough depending on age. The person you are at 18 is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from the person you are at 25 or 30. Some people mature and their values change. Both people need to be moving in the same direction in life if engagement is an option. If not, their lifestyle differences will eventually tear them apart and they will become strangers to one another. I don’t think that moving in together will help. If anything, it will hinder the chances of a proposal.
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I agree. They definitely need to be on the same page. Otherwise they are wasting each other’s time.
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Exactly
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My mom always told me that you don’t really KNOW someone until you’ve lived with them for at least 2 years.
The question of “when” someone should move in is really hard to answer. The way my relationship with my fiancé played out we were practically living together from like 2 months in, but it was because he spent enough time at my place, sleeping over and whatnot that he eventually just stopped going back to his place. It didn’t make things difficult or anything like that, but I definitely feel like we wouldn’t know each other so well and we definitely wouldn’t be engaged by now (2 years and going on 5 months) if we hadn’t spent so much time together since the beginning.
If he’s not the type to get stuff done without an incentive and she is already envisioning them divorcing down the road, then why isn’t she thinking about THAT? Delaying them moving in together isn’t going to make a difference in his personality flaws. If that’s how she feels, she shouldn’t be engaged at all. And as a matter of fact, she really should be sitting down with him to talk about their values in the relationship and what kind of goals they’re looking towards down the road. Because if it’s as doomed to fail as she seems to think it is, maybe they shouldn’t even be together at all.
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I agree. I think she answered her own question. She just doesn’t realize it. She knows what type of man she has, but she is in denial. He doesn’t want to get married, at least not now.
I agree with you. They definitely need to sit down and talk about things.
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Exactly. He definitely comes off as that kind of guy!
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